problemi de pornire la c220 cdi 611962 (2002)

[gmihai24]

B1104 Green indicator lamp, short to B+ or Ground(se refera la lumina verde de la inchiderea centralizata, adica 'open car' si e in scurtcircuit, acesta apartine modulului ce se ocupa si cu autorizatia de pornire a masinii)
Ar fi o idee ca sa verifici senzorul ir al masinii si instalatia(firele) de la el pana la modul.

Apropo de erori.Cateva exemple ca sa stim incotro ne indreptam.
Exemple:

Erorile cu P apartin de Powertrain.
P0100 Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Malfunction
P0101 Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Range/Performance Problem
P0130 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 1, open circuit bef cat right)
P0131 O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
P0132 O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1)

Erorile cu B apartin de Body
B1021 CAN fault N10-1 or A37
B1056 Automatic Air Conditioning: Problem in CAN communication with control unit DCM-RL
B1132 Alarm activated via S62/7 glovebox switch
B1153 Component B48 (Front passenger seat occupied and child recognition) has only detected one transponder (could also be memory card on front passenger seat)
B1201 Electric seat adjustment front left: Hall sensor front height M27m3
B1213 If seat memory installed: ext left rearview mirror voltage faulty

Erorile cu C apartin de Chassis
C1000 Traction System Control Module
C1010 Battery Voltage Low
C1011 ASR/ETS/ESP Circuit Open or Shorted
C1012 Battery Voltage High
C1020 CAN Communication Fault
C1021 CAN Communication With EA/CC/ISC Control Module Interrupted
C1022 ESP CAN communication with the engine system is faulty
C1024 CAN Communication With Engine Control Module Interrupted
C1025-003 CAN Communication BAS communication with ESP control unit faulty

Other Systems

D004 (in AGW) control module switched off due to excessive temperature
D100 MOST fault in segment 0+1
D101 MOST fault in CP segment 2
D102 MOST fault in CP segment 2
D103 MOST fault in segment 3
D104 MOST fault in segment 4
D105 MOST fault in segment 5
D117 MOST configuration deviates from spec
D500 microphone 1 has short to ground
D640 CAN bus to control unit CGW (CAN D): CAN reception timeout of data of control unit CGW
D662 Control unit Telecommunications is faulty: 'CTEL' transmitter and receiver unit
N1100 TeleAid: No signal received from right side speed sensors.
N1101 TeleAid: No signal received from left side speed sensors.
N1111 MCS fault code: audio muted, CD changer briefly interrupted, updated SW
N1112 MCS: Lost Communication between D2B master and other device
N1113 MCS: Lost Communication between D2B master and other device
N1116 MCS: Failure in D2B ring. Fault in position 1 in D2B ring.
N1141 MCS fault code: Set-actual configuration of D2B ring differs from actual.
N1150 MCS fault code: Unknown fault code: update to DAS > 04/2003
N1241 CD fault, CD can not be read.
90C7 ATA Fault Code in rear SAM: Communication fault with component H3/1
9117 fault in CAN communication with control unit Telecommunication
9200 SRS: resistance value in the ignition circuit with R12/13 is too high
9210 SRS: resistance value in the ignition circuit with R13/14 is too high
9260 SRS: resistance in drivers airbag too high. Replace Wiring.
9386 AGW no longer sends on CAN

[cocohro]

Eu spun ca nici electromotorul nu are cum sa fie.
Doar nu are treaba cu temperatura. Daca zici ca de fiecare data la rece porneste si la cald nu- este o problema de senzor/ electronica si nu una mecanica(electromotor)
Electromotorul eventual il dai jos, verifici carbunii, bendixul, bucsele,bobina, etc, il curti, ungi si daca totul este ok in el, il pui la loc.
Apropo, Heaterbooster degeaba il dai pe off, din ce am citit, el trebuie anulat fizic(macar alimentarea la el).

Daca te uiti bine la poza si analizezi.. are leagatura electromotorul si inca cum!!!

[dialiv]

Orice piesa are legatura cu alta piesa sau conditie. Doar masina este un sistem complex pana la urma. Si in orice sistem componentele lui sunt intr-o relatie directa sau indirecta.
Cand am spus ca electromotorul nu are legatura cu temperatura m-am referit strict la cate grade are electromotorul.
1- dimineata electromotorul este rece(temperatura ambianta)- porneste.
2- dupa o ora de condus, el se incalzeste(tot prin influenta).- nu mai porneste.
3- se raceste motorul- porneste iar.
De aici deduci tu ca este electromotorul de vina?

[dialiv]

Din ce vad in schema de la cheie la starter ai cateva componente electronice.
Eis nu are cum sa fie(nu ar porni nici la rece) plus ca aveai o eroare cu N73.
Iti mai raman cei doi senzori ckp si ect + releul.
Eu nu am auzit pana acum un electromotor sa mearga la rece si la cald nu.

[cocohro]

Avnd in vedere ca are 325000 km si poate o pura coincidenta de a ramas blocat.. din cauza partei electrice..
De ce nu iese la test celelate? Dupa ce au fost sterse, singurele ramase au fost legate de bujii si CAN .. atat!! Oricum, imi pare bine caci gandesti asa, in cazul acesta pot sa decid ce sa mai schimb. Am pus electromotor si bujii. Sa mai schimb ceva la ea?

[dialiv]

Cauti pe google hot/warm star issue mercedes.
Cam in toate cazurile in care porneste la rece si nu la cald se aminteste de crank saft pos( senzorul de mai sus).
Te intrebi de ce nu apare pe Star. De obicei nu apare. Apare doar cand masina refuza sa porneasca.
Tu ai facut testarea cand nu pornea masina(motorul cald)?

[cocohro]

Testarea a fost facuta cand era motorul rece... apoi s-a incalzit de apa era la 80°c, dar tot nu a aparut. Pe unde se poate gasi acest senzor? un link de ebay se poate?

[gmihai24]

Aici am pus detalii despre cei doi senzori, temperatura si crank.
Daca incalzesti motorul la 80 de grade si apoi pui o rezistenta cu o valoare intre 1300 ohm si 3100 ohm(1,3-3,1 kohm), in mufa ce vine conectata la senzorul de temperatura apa motor(ECT), ce se intampla? Porneste?
Fa aceasta proba si revino.