ce insemna ,w'

[MARIAN69]

Salve.Sant nou in ale Mercedesul-ui,dar ce insemna ,w'-ul (w200,w204 etc) : Wink4:

[Levi]

Aşa începe codul de fabrică al modelelor (la BMW începe cu E). În general "W" poţi întâlni la caroseriile în 3 volume şi 4 uşi (dar nu e o regulă !), coupe-urile fiind notate cu "C", cabrio cu "A", roadsterele cu "R", combi/break cu "S", ca să ne limităm doar la autoturisme ... Gugăleşte, şi ai să găseşti diferite tabele utile în a vedea evoluţia modelelor (de ex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templat...-Benz_vehicles )

[mer_se280]

Dupa coduri, "W''-ul reprezinta tara de origine unde a fost fabricat agregatul...adica in cazul nostru "W"-ul este 'Germania'.

[w124researcher]

Initial toate modelele erau W = Wagen

Mai nou (dupa '80-'90) au aparut si diferentieri

W = Wagen ( berlina )
S = Stationwagon
R = Roadster
C = Coupe
A = Auf- oder Abgeschnitten ( Cabrio / Convertable)
V = Verlangert (long wheelbase chassis, long sedan)
CL = Coupe leicht (coupe light )
X = SUV lung cum este GL

[epurare_coco]

La MB, W este de la West Germany.
Cele 3 cifre sunt seria de modele fabricate.
A, B, C, G. R, M, ... sunt gama de modele.
Cele 3 cifre dupa litere sunt capacitatea motorului in zeci cmc.
Doar la diesel'e se mai scriu si date intuitive privind sistemul de alimentare.

[MARIAN69]

Mutumesc frumos si ,,SARBATORI FERICITE''

[Levi]

Dupa coduri, "W''-ul reprezinta tara de origine unde a fost fabricat agregatul...adica in cazul nostru "W"-ul este 'Germania'.

La MB, W este de la West Germany.

Daţi-mi voie să vă contrazic: "W" nu are nicio treabă cu "West Germany" sau "Germany", doar în cadrul codului "WDB" (care, la rândul lui, este parte a codului VIN, utilizat abia de la începutul anilor '80).
Mercedes utiliza "W" de prin anii '20, cu mult înainte de scindarea Germaniei (a se vedea toate paginile din linkul meu din postul #2). La origini, "W---" era codul şasiului. Aveam o discuţie cu un mult stimat prieten, pe un site de machete, unde el a punctat foarte bine: la începuturi se produceau doar şasiurile cu motoarele montate, iar caroseria se făcea de către carosierii vremii, după comanda clientului (citez un fragment din discuţie: "Stiu asta. Atunci erau foarte customizabile, fiind produse in intregime manual, asa ca o sa fie cam greu de gasit una cu exact aceeaşi caroserie. De aici si este obiceiul Mercedes de a clasifica masinile in functie de sasiu ..."). De aceea, putem întâlni diferite caroserii pe o platformă/motorizare comună.

Off topic, dar în legătură cu subiectul topicului, despre VIN şi (în cadrul acestuia, despre WDB), citiţi mai jos:

Explanation of Unique Identifiers Within Your Mercedes' VIN

Vehicle identification numbers are standardized - all contain 17 characters. VIN characters may be capital letters A through Z and numbers 1 through 0; however, the letters I, O and Q are never used in order to avoid mistakes of misreading. No signs or spaces are allowed in the VIN.

The position of each letter or number in the VIN code reveals important information about where and when your Mercedes was made, the type of engine it has, the model or series of the car, various equipment/attributes and its production sequence. Each character or digit has a particular purpose as follows:

1st Character: The 1st character of your Mercedes' vehicle identification number identifies the country where it was manufactured.

VIN Character 1 - Manufacturing Country Codes
1 or 4 2 3 J K S W Z
USA Canada Mexico Japan Korea England Germany Italy

2nd Character: The 2nd character in your Mercedes' VIN specifies the manufacturer, for example:
VIN Character 2 - Car Manufacturer Codes
A B H A D N T V W
Audi BMW Honda Jaguar Mercedes Nissan Toyota Volvo VW

3rd Character: The 3rd character in your Mercedes' vehicle identification number indicates the vehicle type or manufacturing division. This varies among car makes and models.

4th - 8th Character: The 4th through 8th characters in your Mercedes' VIN reveals its features/attributes, such as body style, engine type, model, series, etc. Again, this varies widely among car makes, models and equipment.

9th Character: The 9th character in your Mercedes' vehicle identification number is a VIN accuracy check digit, verifying the previous numbers within the VIN. This check digit is a single number or letter "X" used to verify the accuracy of the transcription of the vehicle identification number.

There is a precise method for obtaining the check digit; however, it is not relevant to our discussion here. Suffice to say that after all other characters in the VIN have been determined by the manufacturer, the check digit is calculated by carrying out a mathematical computation. The correct numeric remainder - zero through nine (0-9) will appear. However, if the remainder is 10 the letter "X" is used to designate the check digit value.

10th Character: The 10th character in your Mercedes' VIN tells you the model year. (This varies somewhat among car manufacturers - see the chart in the "Here's How to Find Your Car's VIN" section below for specific locations by car make.)

VIN Character - Model Year Codes
1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A
1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990
B C D E F G H J K L
1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
M N P R S T V W X Y
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A

11th Character: The 11th character in your Mercedes' vehicle identification number reveals the assembly plant for the vehicle.

12th - 17th Character: The 12th through the 17th character in your Mercedes' VIN indicate the sequence of the vehicle for production as it rolled off the manufacturer's assembly line. The last four characters are always numeric.

These last six characters are perhaps the most critical portion of the VIN for most European cars. Because of mid-year production changes by car makers, these can be extremely important in identifying the proper part numbers for ignition, fuel, emission and engine components. These types of parts are often listed with the caveat that they fit vehicles up to a particular VIN or before/after a particular VIN sequence.

List of World Manufacturer Codes:

3AM Mexico
3MB Mexico
4JG M-Class except Europe
5DH Mexico Bus
8AB Argentina
8AC Argentina
9BM Brazil
ADB South Africa
KPA South Korea vans
KPD South Korea
KPG South Korea
LE4 Chinese production
MHL Indonesia
NAB Iran
NMB Turkey
RLM Mercedes-Benz Vietnam
TAW NAW Switzerland
TCC smart
VAG Steyr cross-country vehicles
VF9 EVOBUS France
VS9 EVOBUS Spain
VSA Spain
WD1 Sprinter
WD2 NAFTA Sprinter
WD3 Sprinter
WD4 Sprinter
WD5 NAFTA Sprinter
WD6 Unimog NAFTA
WD7 Unimog NAFTA incomplete
WD9 Sprinter
WDB Germany
WDC M-Class Europe/203/G-Wagon-USA
WDD Germany DaimlerChrysler
WDF Rest of world (ROW)
WEB EVOBUS Mercedes-Benz
WKK EVOBUS Setra
WME smart

Nu este un material complet, se poate upgrada ...

Cele bune !

[epurare_coco]

@
1st Character: The 1st character of your Mercedes' vehicle identification number identifies the country where it was manufactured.

VIN Character 1 - Manufacturing Country Codes
1 or 4 2 3 J K S W Z
USA Canada Mexico Japan Korea England Germany Italy

Cu ce am gresit noi - din interpretarea din anii '80 ?

[Levi]

Colegul a întrebat ce înseamnă "W" din "W200", "W204" - zice el în postul prim ... deci ?

P.S. Oricum, după cum am precizat, materialul preluat de mine este incomplet, şi chiar contradictoriu pe alocuri, deoarece, spre exemplu, VIN-ul la un G-klasse fabricat în State începe (în mod normal) cu WDC, ceea ce ar însemna că interpretarea corectă a primului caracter din VIN, respectiv "W", ar trebui să fie în sensul "ţara de origine a mărcii/fabricantului" ... "manufacturer country" în loc de "manufacturing country" ...

[gotca]

@
1st Character: The 1st character of your Mercedes' vehicle identification number identifies the country where it was manufactured.

VIN Character 1 - Manufacturing Country Codes
1 or 4 2 3 J K S W Z
USA Canada Mexico Japan Korea England Germany Italy

Cu ce am gresit noi - din interpretarea din anii '80 ?

W163 - peste 90% fabricate in USA.

[valentinion]

W este pentru Weltmeister. <wink>